Anna David joins us on The SHAIR Podcast. Anna is the New York Times best-selling author of Party Girl, Reality Matters, Falling for Me, and a slew of other best-selling books. She was the sex and relationship exist on G4’s Attack of the Show for over three years and has been a regular guest on the Today Show, Fox News Hannity, and Red Eye, The CBS Morning Show, Dr. Drew, The Talk, and Inside Edition.
And the way I discovered Anna was through the After Party Website. She was the editor-in-chief in both After Party and RehabReviews.com for three years. Her consulting company, Recover Girl, includes both a storytelling show and a podcast. Recover Girl formerly the After Party Pod, for those of you have heard of the After Party Pod, I’m sure, that focuses on de-stigmatizing addiction and developing healthier lives. She speaks on television and at colleges across the country on addiction, recovery, and relationships.
Join us now as Anna takes us through her battle with drugs and alcohol and her inspirational journey of recovery.
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Omar: What was keeping you from getting clean or staying clean when you first got introduced to recovery?
Anna David: What was keeping me from getting clean was that I thought it was the end of my life. I thought that sober people sat around miserable, talked about the good old days when they were drinking, smoked cigarettes, drank coffee, and if like the tedium of their lives got so bad that they didn’t know what to do, they’d maybe be like, “We could like, go to a play.” I didn’t understand conceptually that you could have fun not being fucked up.
Omar: At what point did you have a spiritual awakening, that a-ha moment, in recovery, when you accepted that you were powerless over drugs and alcohol, but for the first time had developed the hope that you could recover?
Anna David: For me it was not a conscious thing. I think I must have had it the day that I called my mom and said I was an addict. Something was going on. And then, I did what was suggested to me, in twelve step rooms, and I realized one day that I had absolutely no interest in doing drugs or drinking. Which I had been trying to do for years and years and years. And it occurred to me that that didn’t make any logical sense. I’m a very logical person.
That was where my belief came from. Because I’d never encountered, and still haven’t encountered something where I tried something for years and years and years. It didn’t work. I had ample evidence that I couldn’t stop drinking and doing drugs. And then I did, a few of the simplest things. Not easy, but the simplest things imaginable. And suddenly, it was like that part of my brain was gone. And I’m like, “If that’s not a higher power, then there’s no greater confirmation I could need.”
Omar: Do you have a favorite book that you would recommend to our newcomers?
Anna David: Well, my favorite books aren’t really about addiction and recovery, I would say. My favorite authors are Martin Amos and Philip Roth, both totally misanthropic, probably alcoholic writers. I think the best book about recovery is the Sarah Hepola’s book, Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget. She’s just amazing.
I did just absolutely love the Cat Marnell book, How to Murder Your Life. It was amazing.
Omar: What is your favorite book or the one that you would recommend of your books?
Anna David: Oh, I only recommend one of my books. I don’t even like the other five. That’s the truth. Party Girl. Read Party Girl. It’s my first one. I love it. A lot of my books, I read them and I cringe, that one, it just was totally pure. And it’s a great example of alcoholism. I wrote a character who’s completely self-obsessed and has no idea she’s self-obsessed.
Omar: What is the best suggestion you have ever received?
Anna David: I think the best suggestion I have ever received was just stick around because your mind’s going to change. I don’t remember when I first heard that, but I used to be absolutely convinced that the way I felt today was going to be the way I’d feel for the rest of my life. I didn’t understand that my mind could change in a second. That was really true about the twelve steps. I was a thousand percent convinced that was not the place for me. It was like a cult and it was terrible. And I didn’t understand when I felt that way at the time that eventually my mind would change. Really understanding that I can’t trust my brain has been the greatest freedom ever.
Omar: If you could give our newcomers only one suggestion, what would that I be?
Anna David: Let go of whatever you believe you know to be true.
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Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget Paperback – by Sarah Hepola
How to Murder Your Life: A Memoir Hardcover – by Cat Marnell
Party Girl: A Novel Paperback – by Anna David
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